Bathurst Race 8

Bcit Solutions Pace

Stake: $11,163

  • Distance: 1730m
  • Class: NR up to 47
  • Track: Good
  • Weather: Showers
  • Surface: All Weather
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1Kelvin Winnell
  • The Dancer (Fr1) 5176409067
  • Trainer: Kelvin Winnell (Spring Hill)
  • Driver: Anthony Winnell
  • Prize Money: $107,975
  • Win / Place: 10% / 28%

9 yo Bay/Brown Gelding

Sire: A ROCKNROLL DANCE (USA)

Dam: SUPERSTAR LADY (NZ)

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Rating

Stats
Career
123: 13-6-16
Distance
77: 9-4-12
Trk/Dst
59: 7-4-7
Track
90: 8-6-11
Season
5: 0-0-0
1st Up
6: 0-0-1
2nd Up
6: 1-0-2
3rd Up
6: 0-0-0
Mobile
123: 13-6-16
All-Weather
123: 13-6-16
Best Mile
1:57.38
Comments

Expected Settling Position: Leader

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceStartSurfaceBarrierDriverRace TimeMile RateMarginSPDaysClassPrizePrize WonResult
7th of 101/10/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr1Anthony Winnell2:07.201:58.38.55L $5.00 14NR 40 to 44$7,912$155

1. Tafl Move

2. Our Uncle Harold

3. Sheza Bettor Gem

6th of 1017/9/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherSr1Anthony Winnell2:05.801:57.03.79L $10 7NR 39 to 43$7,912$155

1. Lettuce Go Miki

2. Major Ark

3. Line Me Up Bro NZ

10th of 1010/9/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr7Anthony Winnell2:05.401:56.710.82L $101 19NR up to 48$11,161$219

1. Puppeteer

2. Special Spin

3. The Handsome One

9th of 1022/8/25Dubbo1720mMobileAll WeatherFr4Anthony Winnell2:04.701:56.710.15L $41 16NR up to 50$7,912$155

1. Tisbury Rocks NZ

2. Flirts Diva

3. Gabbys Sportstar

10th of 106/8/25Bathurst2260mMobileAll WeatherFr4Anthony Winnell2:48.602:00.111.64L $26 7NR up to 48$11,161$219

1. Evelyns Dragon

2. Ya Racin Arlo

3. Marvella

4th of 1030/7/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr5Anthony Winnell2:07.301:58.51.93L $15 42NR up to 47$11,161$657

1. Marvella

2. Tearin Up The Sand

3. Backwards First

42 Day Freshen-Up
2Nathan Turnbull
  • Potter (Fr2) 6643844836
  • Trainer: Nathan Turnbull (The Lagoon)
  • Driver: Jett Turnbull (C)
  • Prize Money: $118,378
  • Win / Place: 8.40% / 41%

5 yo Bay Horse

Sire: ART MAJOR (USA)

Dam: MY PLATINUM BELLE (NZ)

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Rating

Stats
Career
119: 10-17-22
Distance
35: 2-6-8
Trk/Dst
15: 2-2-2
Track
28: 3-3-4
Season
6: 0-0-1
1st Up
3: 0-0-0
2nd Up
3: 0-0-1
3rd Up
3: 0-0-0
Mobile
119: 10-17-22
All-Weather
119: 10-17-22
Best Mile
1:56.07
Comments

Expected Settling Position: Off Pace

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceStartSurfaceBarrierDriverRace TimeMile RateMarginSPDaysClassPrizePrize WonResult
6th of 1015/10/25Bathurst2260mMobileAll WeatherSr2Nathan Turnbull2:46.101:58.34.35L $41 40NR up to 48$11,161$219

1. Shevchenko

2. She The Devil

3. Chelseas Girl

40 Day Freshen-Up
3rd of 105/9/25Parkes2040mMobileAll WeatherFr3Jason Turnbull2:32.502:00.31.30L $26 7NR up to 55$7,912$853

1. Mullum Axel

2. The Rogue I Am

3. Potter

8th of 1029/8/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr2Nathan Turnbull2:04.501:55.87.29L $23 7NR up to 52$7,912$155

1. Tisbury Rocks NZ

2. The Rogue I Am

3. She Maybe Bettor

4th of 1022/8/25Dubbo1720mMobileAll WeatherFr5Mitch Turnbull2:04.701:56.76.13L $51 7NR up to 50$7,912$465

1. Tisbury Rocks NZ

2. Flirts Diva

3. Gabbys Sportstar

4th of 1015/8/25Parkes1660mMobileAll WeatherFr2J G Coney2:02.201:58.50.71L $3.70 14NR 44 to 49$7,912$465

1. The Dome

2. Mullum Axel

3. Queenhigh Flush NZ

8th of 91/8/25Parkes1660mMobileAll WeatherSr3Nathan Turnbull2:02.501:58.87.10L $1.00 7NR up to 50$7,912$155

1. Lennox Bromac NZ

2. Rosie Romance

3. Windy Hill Lucy

3Peter Wood
  • Chelseas Girl (Fr3) 3731978953
  • Trainer: Peter Wood ()
  • Driver: Peter Wood
  • Prize Money: $77,067
  • Win / Place: 9.21% / 30%

8 yo Bay Mare

Sire: CARIBBEAN BLASTER (AUS)

Dam: DISCORDIA (AUS)

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Rating

Stats
Career
76: 7-5-11
Distance
55: 6-5-8
Trk/Dst
55: 6-5-8
Track
76: 7-5-11
Season
6: 0-0-1
1st Up
5: 0-0-0
2nd Up
5: 0-0-0
3rd Up
5: 2-0-0
Mobile
76: 7-5-11
All-Weather
76: 7-5-11
Best Mile
1:56.44
Comments

Expected Settling Position: Pace

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceStartSurfaceBarrierDriverRace TimeMile RateMarginSPDaysClassPrizePrize WonResult
3rd of 1015/10/25Bathurst2260mMobileAll WeatherSr1Peter Wood2:46.101:58.32.23L $26 7NR up to 48$11,161$1,204

1. Shevchenko

2. She The Devil

3. Chelseas Girl

5th of 108/10/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr8Peter Wood2:04.401:55.88.14L $51 28NR up to 47$11,161$438

1. Tafl Move

2. She Maybe Bettor

3. Lucky Zara

9th of 910/9/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr3Peter Wood2:05.701:56.97.51L $61 7NR up to 55$11,161$219

1. Alfnalma

2. Astral Stride

3. Time To Torque

8th of 83/9/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr2Peter Wood2:04.701:56.04.39L $151 7NR up to 58$11,161$219

1. Auntie Lou

2. Tisbury Rocks NZ

3. Treacherous Belle

7th of 927/8/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr7Peter Wood2:05.201:56.45.65L $41 7NR up to 47$11,161$219

1. Zachary Shannon

2. Uncle Tony

3. Riviere

9th of 1020/8/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr6Peter Wood2:04.601:55.910.45L $34 28NR up to 48$11,161$219

1. Time To Torque

2. Mia On

3. She The Devil

4Wendy Turnbull
  • Hooked On Winning Nz (Fr4) 8546568437
  • Trainer: Wendy Turnbull (The Lagoon)
  • Driver: Jason Turnbull
  • Prize Money: $61,392
  • Win / Place: 8.06% / 30%

5 yo Bay Gelding

Sire: SWEET LOU (USA)

Dam: DANCING DIXIE (NZ)

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Rating

Stats
Career
62: 5-6-8
Distance
32: 2-4-6
Trk/Dst
29: 2-4-5
Track
44: 5-5-6
Season
6: 0-0-1
1st Up
3: 0-0-1
2nd Up
3: 0-0-0
3rd Up
3: 0-0-0
Mobile
62: 5-6-8
All-Weather
62: 5-6-8
Best Mile
1:56.40
Comments

Expected Settling Position: Off Pace

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceStartSurfaceBarrierDriverRace TimeMile RateMarginSPDaysClassPrizePrize WonResult
7th of 1015/10/25Bathurst2260mMobileAll WeatherFr6Jason Turnbull2:46.101:58.34.42L $12 7NR up to 48$11,161$219

1. Shevchenko

2. She The Devil

3. Chelseas Girl

3rd of 108/10/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr7Jason Turnbull2:04.601:55.93.94L $41 28NR up to 47$11,161$1,204

1. True Logic

2. Ya Racin Arlo

3. Hooked On Winning NZ

4th of 1010/9/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr3Emma Turnbull2:05.401:56.76.32L $23 9NR up to 48$11,161$657

1. Puppeteer

2. Special Spin

3. The Handsome One

8th of 91/9/25Menangle1609mMobileAll WeatherFr7Jason Turnbull1:55.001:55.05.17L $23 141LTW so eligible 3yo+ NR50$11,400$223

1. Theres Wally

2. Longtan Viper

3. Explosive Bronski

6th of 1018/8/25Menangle1609mMobileAll WeatherFr1Jason Turnbull1:53.801:53.86.32L $13 101LTW so eligible 3yo+ NR50$11,400$223

1. Wills Way

2. A Vapar Storm

3. Larrikin Lenny

5th of 108/8/25Dubbo2120mMobileAll WeatherFr3Jason Turnbull2:39.802:01.33.12L $6.50 9NR up to 52$7,912$310

1. Barlor Heaven

2. Krista Bellita

3. A Lil Bit Of Love

5John O'Shea
  • Lucky Zara (Fr5) 5847364438
  • Trainer: John O'Shea (Eglinton)
  • Driver: John O'Shea
  • Prize Money: $75,853
  • Win / Place: 5.32% / 25%

6 yo Brown Mare

Sire: BETTING LINE (USA)

Dam: DENISE AND JULES (AUS)

Racing and Sports - Trusted form provider for 20+ years94

Rating

Stats
Career
94: 5-9-10
Distance
82: 4-9-9
Trk/Dst
70: 3-9-6
Track
72: 3-9-6
Season
8: 0-0-2
1st Up
4: 0-0-0
2nd Up
4: 1-0-1
3rd Up
4: 0-0-0
Mobile
94: 5-9-10
All-Weather
94: 5-9-10
Best Mile
1:58.10
Comments

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceStartSurfaceBarrierDriverRace TimeMile RateMarginSPDaysClassPrizePrize WonResult
8th of 1015/10/25Bathurst2260mMobileAll WeatherFr5John O'Shea2:46.101:58.36.06L $91 7NR up to 48$11,161$219

1. Shevchenko

2. She The Devil

3. Chelseas Girl

3rd of 108/10/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr1Amanda Turnbull2:04.401:55.84.39L $6.50 7NR up to 47$11,161$1,204

1. Tafl Move

2. She Maybe Bettor

3. Lucky Zara

4th of 101/10/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr6John O'Shea2:07.201:58.33.23L $14 14NR up to 39$7,912$465

1. Betting On Courage

2. Hall Most An Angel

3. Weeneeddreams

4th of 1017/9/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr8A L Rees2:08.301:59.31.71L $34 7NR up to 38$7,912$465

1. The Handsome One

2. Crystal Bling

3. Irk McGlurk

6th of 1010/9/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr1John O'Shea2:05.401:56.79.22L $41 12NR up to 48$11,161$219

1. Puppeteer

2. Special Spin

3. The Handsome One

3rd of 1029/8/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherSr2John O'Shea2:09.202:00.23.09L $3.50f 15NR up to 35$7,912$853

1. Rose Of Juliana

2. Fake Mint

3. Lucky Zara

6Nathan Hurst
  • Tulhurst Timmy (Fr6) 7898872093
  • Trainer: Nathan Hurst (Eglinton)
  • Driver: Nathan Hurst
  • Prize Money: $69,411
  • Win / Place: 10% / 32%

4 yo Bay Gelding

Sire: FOR A REASON (AUS)

Dam: TULHURST EDEN (AUS)

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Rating

Stats
Career
70: 7-4-12
Distance
44: 3-3-9
Trk/Dst
26: 2-0-7
Track
36: 4-0-8
Season
8: 0-1-1
1st Up
4: 0-0-1
2nd Up
4: 0-0-0
3rd Up
4: 0-0-2
Mobile
70: 7-4-12
All-Weather
70: 7-4-12
Best Mile
1:56.90
Comments

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceStartSurfaceBarrierDriverRace TimeMile RateMarginSPDaysClassPrizePrize WonResult
3rd of 1010/10/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr2Phoebe Betts2:04.601:55.90.86L $34 10NR up to 50$7,912$853

1. Time To Torque

2. Beancounter

3. Tulhurst Timmy

9th of 1030/9/25Young1720mMobileAll WeatherFr6Nathan Hurst2:05.801:57.78.14L $41 9NR 43 to 44$7,912$155

1. Rosie Pollen

2. Return Serve

3. Orama

10th of 1021/9/25Cowra1700mMobileAll WeatherSr3Nathan Hurst2:05.001:58.315.20L $13 7NR up to 48$11,161$219

1. Scruffy Moto

2. Tafl Move

3. Johnnys Blue

2nd of 1014/9/25Cowra1700mMobileAll WeatherFr1Nathan Hurst2:04.401:57.89.44L $3.60 9NR up to 45$7,912$1,318

1. Alabama Lioness

2. Tulhurst Timmy

3. Holme Boy

7th of 105/9/25Parkes1660mMobileAll WeatherFr5Angela Hurst2:02.401:58.64.09L $31 3NR 43 to 46$7,912$155

1. Willies Dollar

2. The Missing Sock NZ

3. Riverina Flash

8th of 102/9/25Young1720mMobileAll WeatherFr1Angela Hurst2:05.701:57.66.58L $31 13NR up to 57$7,912$155

1. Dorristopaythebill

2. Roll To The Top

3. Im Alrite

7Darrell Dwyer
  • The Handsome One (Fr7) 2463317563
  • Trainer: Darrell Dwyer (Eglinton)
  • Driver: Justin Reynolds
  • Prize Money: $152,836
  • Win / Place: 10% / 28%

8 yo Bay/Brown Gelding

Sire: CARIBBEAN BLASTER (AUS)

Dam: TO LIVE FOR (AUS)

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Rating

Stats
Career
173: 18-11-21
Distance
105: 13-6-15
Trk/Dst
92: 11-6-14
Track
119: 13-7-17
Season
10: 1-1-3
1st Up
6: 0-0-0
2nd Up
6: 0-0-0
3rd Up
6: 1-1-2
Mobile
173: 18-11-21
All-Weather
173: 18-11-21
Best Mile
1:57.19
Comments

Expected Settling Position: Leader

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceStartSurfaceBarrierDriverRace TimeMile RateMarginSPDaysClassPrizePrize WonResult
3rd of 1010/10/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr3J D Reynolds2:05.601:56.94.80L $5.50 4NR 37 to 40$7,912$853

1. Financially Stable

2. Betting On Courage

3. The Handsome One

6th of 106/10/25Eugowra1700mMobileAll WeatherFr2E A Dwyer2:04.801:58.24.24L $15 5NR up to 48$11,161$219

1. Reason To Party

2. Rogervalerio Lombo

3. Rosie Romance

5th of 101/10/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr2Amanda Turnbull2:07.201:58.33.68L $2.30f 7NR up to 39$7,912$310

1. Betting On Courage

2. Hall Most An Angel

3. Weeneeddreams

7th of 924/9/25Bathurst2260mMobileAll WeatherSr2Amanda Turnbull2:47.701:59.43.35L $51 7NR up to 48$11,161$219

1. Special Spin

2. Williams

3. Tearin Up The Sand

1st of 1017/9/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr6Amanda Turnbull2:08.301:59.30.93L $1.55f 7NR up to 38$7,912$4,186

1. The Handsome One

2. Crystal Bling

3. Irk McGlurk

3rd of 1010/9/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherSr1Amanda Turnbull2:05.401:56.76.17L $21 7NR up to 48$11,161$1,204

1. Puppeteer

2. Special Spin

3. The Handsome One

8Nathan Turnbull
  • Tearin Up The Sand (Fr8) 7627915372
  • Trainer: Nathan Turnbull (The Lagoon)
  • Driver: Jye Coney (C)
  • Prize Money: $61,592
  • Win / Place: 12% / 35%

5 yo Bay Gelding

Sire: SUNSHINE BEACH (USA)

Dam: BYJAM (AUS)

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Rating

Stats
Career
56: 7-9-4
Distance
38: 3-8-3
Trk/Dst
18: 1-6-1
Track
23: 2-6-2
Season
7: 1-1-1
1st Up
2: 0-0-0
2nd Up
2: 0-1-0
3rd Up
2: 1-0-0
Mobile
56: 7-9-4
All-Weather
56: 7-9-4
Best Mile
1:56.30
Comments

Expected Settling Position: Off Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceStartSurfaceBarrierDriverRace TimeMile RateMarginSPDaysClassPrizePrize WonResult
2nd of 913/10/25Canberra1770mMobileAll WeatherFr1Nathan Turnbull2:09.801:58.01.86L $2.90f 7NR up to 47$7,912$1,318

1. Eyedidntloseit

2. Tearin Up The Sand

3. Megs Monaro

7th of 106/10/25Eugowra1700mMobileAll WeatherSr3Jett Turnbull2:03.001:56.57.29L $6.00 12NR up to 48$11,161$219

1. Tukurua

2. Mullum Axel

3. Stay Foolish

3rd of 924/9/25Bathurst2260mMobileAll WeatherFr6Jett Turnbull2:47.701:59.41.26L $41 14NR up to 48$11,161$1,204

1. Special Spin

2. Williams

3. Tearin Up The Sand

5th of 1010/9/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr5Jett Turnbull2:05.401:56.77.62L $9.00 7NR up to 48$11,161$438

1. Puppeteer

2. Special Spin

3. The Handsome One

1st of 103/9/25Bathurst2260mMobileAll WeatherSr2Jett Turnbull2:49.402:00.60.04L $10 7NR up to 47$11,161$3,885

1. Spring Delight, Tearin Up The Sand

2.

3. The Handsome One

9th of 927/8/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr6Jett Turnbull2:05.201:56.411.82L $21 7NR up to 47$11,161$219

1. Zachary Shannon

2. Uncle Tony

3. Riviere

9Dean Atkinson
  • Khulan Kid (Sr1) 6691888518
  • Trainer: Dean Atkinson (Bungonia)
  • Driver: Matthew Atkinson (C,5)
  • Prize Money: $88,551
  • Win / Place: 13% / 40%

5 yo Brown Horse

Sire: AMERICAN IDEAL (USA)

Dam: GLORY DAZE (AUS)

Racing and Sports - Trusted form provider for 20+ years94

Rating

Stats
Career
84: 11-15-8
Distance
21: 2-4-1
Season
5: 1-0-0
1st Up
4: 0-1-1
2nd Up
4: 2-1-0
3rd Up
4: 1-1-0
Mobile
84: 11-15-8
All-Weather
84: 11-15-8
Best Mile
1:54.33
Comments

Expected Settling Position: Midfield

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceStartSurfaceBarrierDriverRace TimeMile RateMarginSPDaysClassPrizePrize WonResult
8th of 106/10/25Eugowra2100mMobileAll WeatherFr1M J Atkinson2:32.801:57.19.44L $23 10NR up to 65$17,100$342

1. Auntie Lou

2. Bettor Keppel

3. Yukon Be Serious NZ

1st of 1026/9/25Wagga1740mMobileAll WeatherFr6M J Atkinson2:05.501:56.10.07L $14 14NR up to 48$11,161$5,910

1. Khulan Kid

2. Spring Delight

3. Esther Rising, Im Harvey Specter NZ

5th of 912/9/25Wagga1740mMobileAll WeatherFr1M J Atkinson2:05.901:56.43.53L $8.00 10NR up to 48$11,161$438

1. Braebeach NZ

2. Spring Delight

3. Hes A Terror

8th of 82/9/25Goulburn1710mMobileAll WeatherFr4M J Atkinson2:03.901:56.698.07L $23 7NR up to 57$7,912$155

1. Mikibequick

2. Guest Artist NZ

3. Donnie Mac

8th of 1026/8/25Menangle1609mMobileAll WeatherFr10M J Atkinson1:54.901:54.95.72L $81 271LTW so eligible 3yo+ NR50$11,400$223

1. Larrikin Lenny

2. Dancing With My Ex

3. Caribbean Runa

8th of 930/7/25Redcliffe2040mMobileAll WeatherFr2N T Rothwell2:33.302:00.98.88L $31 7NR 49 to 54$7,136$68

1. Bold Medley Jujon NZ

2. Maywyn Troubadour

3. Jaccka Cooper NZ

10Phoebe Betts
  • Rosie Romance (Sr2) 4812132238
  • Trainer: Phoebe Betts ()
  • Driver: Phoebe Betts (C,3)
  • Prize Money: $55,700
  • Win / Place: 14% / 36%

5 yo Bay Mare

Sire: FOR A REASON (AUS)

Dam: OPERATIVE BABE (AUS)

Racing and Sports - Trusted form provider for 20+ years99

Rating

Stats
Career
50: 7-8-3
Distance
31: 6-4-2
Trk/Dst
17: 2-2-0
Track
21: 2-2-0
Season
7: 1-3-2
1st Up
3: 0-0-0
2nd Up
3: 0-0-0
3rd Up
3: 1-0-0
Mobile
50: 7-8-3
All-Weather
50: 7-8-3
Best Mile
1:56.80
Comments

Expected Settling Position: Pace

Last Starts days since last start
PlaceDateTrackDistanceStartSurfaceBarrierDriverRace TimeMile RateMarginSPDaysClassPrizePrize WonResult
8th of 1015/10/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherSr1Phoebe Betts2:02.301:53.85.50L $23 9NR up to 53$11,161$219

1. Bettorlightem Up

2. Jewel Heaven

3. Lucky Punt

3rd of 106/10/25Eugowra1700mMobileAll WeatherSr3Phoebe Betts2:04.801:58.22.53L $3.20f 23NR up to 48$11,161$1,204

1. Reason To Party

2. Rogervalerio Lombo

3. Rosie Romance

4th of 729/9/25Bathurst1730m-Phoebe Betts2:03.70-2.60L $0.00 -Trial$0-

1. Tapaganoosh

2. Bettor Response NZ

3. The Samurai

2nd of 913/9/25Menangle1609mMobileAll WeatherFr3Phoebe Betts1:54.601:54.61.12L $10 17NR up to 52$29,070$4,845

1. Lexys On Song

2. Rosie Romance

3. Louie Dada

4th of 98/9/25Bathurst1730m-Phoebe Betts2:05.40-5.65L $0.00 -Trial$0-

1. Lettuce Go Miki

2. Playboi Roy

3. Hazza Is Watching

2nd of 1027/8/25Bathurst1730mMobileAll WeatherFr4Phoebe Betts2:06.501:57.70.67L $1.80f 8NR up to 52$11,161$1,860

1. Burrabadine Bullet

2. Rosie Romance

3. Lexys On Song

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